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		<title>By: Il futuro di Second Life dopo i licenziamenti a Linden Lab. Selezione di commenti e opinioni dall&#8217;estero &#171; Opensource Obscure</title>
		<link>http://www.metaverseink.com/blog/hypergrid/90-degree-course-adjustment/#comment-48</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 03:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Diva Canto (sviluppatrice di Opensim): qual è il futuro per Opensim, dopo questo cambio radicale di direzione per Second Life? Opensim può continuare a seguire Second Life o se ne deve distaccare definitivamente? &#8211; ﻿﻿﻿90-Degree Course Adjustment [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Diva Canto (sviluppatrice di Opensim): qual è il futuro per Opensim, dopo questo cambio radicale di direzione per Second Life? Opensim può continuare a seguire Second Life o se ne deve distaccare definitivamente? &#8211; ﻿﻿﻿90-Degree Course Adjustment [&#8230;] </p>
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		<title>By: Troy McConaghy</title>
		<link>http://www.metaverseink.com/blog/hypergrid/90-degree-course-adjustment/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Troy McConaghy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The engine that makes SL run (financially) is small businesses (usually sole proprietors) who make money producing goods and services for SL residents. Educators, charities, government grants, and big companies are a drop in the bucket of the SL economy. For an open, federated Metaverse to become competitive, it must attract the small businesses who currently power the SL economy.

Right now, OpenSim worlds are seen as the childlike bargain-basement cousins of SL. Current perceptions include:

* OpenSim doesn&#039;t works as well as SL (e.g. it can reliably handle fewer avatars per sim)
* a much smaller population (smaller market) than SL
* a sense that it&#039;s full of con artists and general lawlessness

Those perceptions must be addressed if OpenSim is ever going to be used to build a real, federated Metaverse. I&#039;d love to see a Metaverse like the World Wide Web, but there was more to building the web than writing some software and protocols. Legal and trust frameworks are required too. Remember how long it took before people felt comfortable entering their credit card info on the web? Trust doesn&#039;t happen overnight, and doesn&#039;t come about by writing some more C# code.

OpenSim needs a Cicero, not another hacker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The engine that makes SL run (financially) is small businesses (usually sole proprietors) who make money producing goods and services for SL residents. Educators, charities, government grants, and big companies are a drop in the bucket of the SL economy. For an open, federated Metaverse to become competitive, it must attract the small businesses who currently power the SL economy.</p>
<p>Right now, OpenSim worlds are seen as the childlike bargain-basement cousins of SL. Current perceptions include:</p>
<p>* OpenSim doesn&#8217;t works as well as SL (e.g. it can reliably handle fewer avatars per sim)<br />
* a much smaller population (smaller market) than SL<br />
* a sense that it&#8217;s full of con artists and general lawlessness</p>
<p>Those perceptions must be addressed if OpenSim is ever going to be used to build a real, federated Metaverse. I&#8217;d love to see a Metaverse like the World Wide Web, but there was more to building the web than writing some software and protocols. Legal and trust frameworks are required too. Remember how long it took before people felt comfortable entering their credit card info on the web? Trust doesn&#8217;t happen overnight, and doesn&#8217;t come about by writing some more C# code.</p>
<p>OpenSim needs a Cicero, not another hacker.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Knop</title>
		<link>http://www.metaverseink.com/blog/hypergrid/90-degree-course-adjustment/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Knop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that OpenSim should stop following SL and should take the lead, and try to establish *the* protocols and reference implementation for the global interoperable metaverse.

One thing that is holding OpenSim back is no independent client.  If OpenSim decided to go GPL, that would free a lot of the problems, because they they could take the Linden code and make it their own... but I&#039;m not going to argue that, as I know I will just die.  So, given that, OpenSim *really really* needs to have one or more clients that are independently written, so that they are no longer tied to the Linden protocol, and so that they can update the protocol and document it to make it into something real.  One thing that is a nightmare for Linden is the fact that it&#039;s often impossible to connect to Second Life from behind a firewall.  OpenSim should solve this problem -- not just by allowing for standalone instances, for people want to travel-- by fixing the protocol.  But, that requires the client....

Also, there&#039;s way more to virtual worlds than the &quot;rich portable identity&quot; you describe.  Yes, that&#039;s something very important.  But there&#039;s also the immersive nature, which you don&#039;t get with the web, that you don&#039;t get with facebook apps.  This immersive nature is key to the true power of virtual worlds.

I used to think when I worked at Linden that anybody who thought they understood Second Life, couldn&#039;t possibly understand Second Life.  The diversity and potential of virtual worlds like this is huge, and part of the great thing about it is that different aspects of it speak to different people.  Once you have a bunch of business types trying to figure out how to stick it into a buzzword compliant silo, you&#039;re missing the point.  Part of the point is recognizing the part you care about and its power, but also recognizing that there&#039;s so much more to it that you need to be careful not to limit it and cut off the other things you haven&#039;t even thought of that people will do with it.  That would be as if instead of having the Internet and Web we have today, made by engineers interested in a peer-to-peer protocol and flexibility, we had the old version of AOL made by a company interested in locking in users and a revenue stream.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that OpenSim should stop following SL and should take the lead, and try to establish *the* protocols and reference implementation for the global interoperable metaverse.</p>
<p>One thing that is holding OpenSim back is no independent client.  If OpenSim decided to go GPL, that would free a lot of the problems, because they they could take the Linden code and make it their own&#8230; but I&#8217;m not going to argue that, as I know I will just die.  So, given that, OpenSim *really really* needs to have one or more clients that are independently written, so that they are no longer tied to the Linden protocol, and so that they can update the protocol and document it to make it into something real.  One thing that is a nightmare for Linden is the fact that it&#8217;s often impossible to connect to Second Life from behind a firewall.  OpenSim should solve this problem &#8212; not just by allowing for standalone instances, for people want to travel&#8211; by fixing the protocol.  But, that requires the client&#8230;.</p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s way more to virtual worlds than the &#8220;rich portable identity&#8221; you describe.  Yes, that&#8217;s something very important.  But there&#8217;s also the immersive nature, which you don&#8217;t get with the web, that you don&#8217;t get with facebook apps.  This immersive nature is key to the true power of virtual worlds.</p>
<p>I used to think when I worked at Linden that anybody who thought they understood Second Life, couldn&#8217;t possibly understand Second Life.  The diversity and potential of virtual worlds like this is huge, and part of the great thing about it is that different aspects of it speak to different people.  Once you have a bunch of business types trying to figure out how to stick it into a buzzword compliant silo, you&#8217;re missing the point.  Part of the point is recognizing the part you care about and its power, but also recognizing that there&#8217;s so much more to it that you need to be careful not to limit it and cut off the other things you haven&#8217;t even thought of that people will do with it.  That would be as if instead of having the Internet and Web we have today, made by engineers interested in a peer-to-peer protocol and flexibility, we had the old version of AOL made by a company interested in locking in users and a revenue stream.</p>
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		<title>By: Ener Hax</title>
		<link>http://www.metaverseink.com/blog/hypergrid/90-degree-course-adjustment/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ener Hax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[free markets, consumer pressure, and, as you put it, those standing and leading will develop the &quot;best fitting&quot; virtual world solutions

it worked for us - it was clear that LL was going down over a year ago when they took 4 months to answer an attribution question for my subQuark who had been approached by the big publishing &quot;O&quot; to author and then the subsequent policy and pricing changes (and we both actually met two business Lindens in person at Battery Street!)

from 19 sims isl to 16 in Reaction Grid was the result and who knows where we will be in a year. some other hosting services have similar priced plans with more resources and more will sprout up for those lacking the tech savvy or time to implement something like your fantastic Diva Distribution =)

alternatives are sprouting as the exodus continues (of both employees and residents)

i am deeply appreciative of the work you do and of all the OpenSim developers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>free markets, consumer pressure, and, as you put it, those standing and leading will develop the &#8220;best fitting&#8221; virtual world solutions</p>
<p>it worked for us &#8211; it was clear that LL was going down over a year ago when they took 4 months to answer an attribution question for my subQuark who had been approached by the big publishing &#8220;O&#8221; to author and then the subsequent policy and pricing changes (and we both actually met two business Lindens in person at Battery Street!)</p>
<p>from 19 sims isl to 16 in Reaction Grid was the result and who knows where we will be in a year. some other hosting services have similar priced plans with more resources and more will sprout up for those lacking the tech savvy or time to implement something like your fantastic Diva Distribution =)</p>
<p>alternatives are sprouting as the exodus continues (of both employees and residents)</p>
<p>i am deeply appreciative of the work you do and of all the OpenSim developers</p>
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		<title>By: In Light of Recent Events &#171; lbsa71.net</title>
		<link>http://www.metaverseink.com/blog/hypergrid/90-degree-course-adjustment/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[In Light of Recent Events &#171; lbsa71.net]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] just blogged about the Linden Labs layoffs, and what the recent change of course for Second Life could mean to [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] just blogged about the Linden Labs layoffs, and what the recent change of course for Second Life could mean to [&#8230;] </p>
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		<title>By: Opensim versus Second Life after the big layoff &#124; Future Intent</title>
		<link>http://www.metaverseink.com/blog/hypergrid/90-degree-course-adjustment/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Opensim versus Second Life after the big layoff &#124; Future Intent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] sets off warning sirens for me, as well it should for any other virtual world enthusiasts.  Diva Canto made an excellent post about it on her blog, espousing most of the same concerns that I have, although I make a few more [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] sets off warning sirens for me, as well it should for any other virtual world enthusiasts.  Diva Canto made an excellent post about it on her blog, espousing most of the same concerns that I have, although I make a few more [&#8230;] </p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Leonard</title>
		<link>http://www.metaverseink.com/blog/hypergrid/90-degree-course-adjustment/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua Leonard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely, 100% right on.  Far too long has Opensim sat in the shadow of Second Life and played catchup.  If it becomes clear that Second Life is indeed taking the direction that it looks like, it&#039;s time for, as you put it, Opensim to take up the torch and lead us into future.  If diverging is what that takes, then so be it.

I&#039;d also like to point out that I think you are also 100% right about the social networking thing.  I like social networks for many reasons - but there&#039;s a point where you don&#039;t need to integrate them into EVERYTHING.  I swear to god, I&#039;m going to end up with shoes that have soles integrated into twitter at some point if this nonsense keeps up.  I understand that they want to have a wider adoption, I really do, but... yikes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, 100% right on.  Far too long has Opensim sat in the shadow of Second Life and played catchup.  If it becomes clear that Second Life is indeed taking the direction that it looks like, it&#8217;s time for, as you put it, Opensim to take up the torch and lead us into future.  If diverging is what that takes, then so be it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to point out that I think you are also 100% right about the social networking thing.  I like social networks for many reasons &#8211; but there&#8217;s a point where you don&#8217;t need to integrate them into EVERYTHING.  I swear to god, I&#8217;m going to end up with shoes that have soles integrated into twitter at some point if this nonsense keeps up.  I understand that they want to have a wider adoption, I really do, but&#8230; yikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Snoopy Pfeffer</title>
		<link>http://www.metaverseink.com/blog/hypergrid/90-degree-course-adjustment/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snoopy Pfeffer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Diva, thanks for your good analysis of the changed situation from the OpenSim perspective. I also think that this change of SL strategy is an opportunity for all of us. But this change also means more responsibility! More people depend more on us than before. They wish that we make OpenSim a good, feature rich product at a professional quality level and that as early as possible.

In the past SL did try to win new corporate customers with their behind the firewall server product and marketing activities focused on that market segment, but they did not really succeed. Instead more and more businesses use OpenSim, that can be much better tailored to customer needs, as well as it can be better integrated into corporate IT processes and system. - And now SL did announce that they will focus on the consumer market and it becomes clear that they abandon their server product for corporations.

What about former SL experts that were working on open interfaces and interoperability? Might they be interested in joining us as developers, testers and documentation experts? - I am sure others also share the same vision of an interconnected 3d Internet, the vision of a truly open metaverse. Now, OpenSim seems to be the only alternative left for people that want to achieve more than just a social community platform with some integration with Twitter and Facebook.

The Internet will be 3D, but the 3D Internet will not be SL, that becomes clear with this strategic change of SL!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diva, thanks for your good analysis of the changed situation from the OpenSim perspective. I also think that this change of SL strategy is an opportunity for all of us. But this change also means more responsibility! More people depend more on us than before. They wish that we make OpenSim a good, feature rich product at a professional quality level and that as early as possible.</p>
<p>In the past SL did try to win new corporate customers with their behind the firewall server product and marketing activities focused on that market segment, but they did not really succeed. Instead more and more businesses use OpenSim, that can be much better tailored to customer needs, as well as it can be better integrated into corporate IT processes and system. &#8211; And now SL did announce that they will focus on the consumer market and it becomes clear that they abandon their server product for corporations.</p>
<p>What about former SL experts that were working on open interfaces and interoperability? Might they be interested in joining us as developers, testers and documentation experts? &#8211; I am sure others also share the same vision of an interconnected 3d Internet, the vision of a truly open metaverse. Now, OpenSim seems to be the only alternative left for people that want to achieve more than just a social community platform with some integration with Twitter and Facebook.</p>
<p>The Internet will be 3D, but the 3D Internet will not be SL, that becomes clear with this strategic change of SL!</p>
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		<title>By: Cisop Sixpence</title>
		<link>http://www.metaverseink.com/blog/hypergrid/90-degree-course-adjustment/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cisop Sixpence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This may put pressure on the OpenSim project to get up to speed.  If Second Life decides to make a ill fated course correction that the users aren&#039;t in agreement with, then OpenSim is the most likely place they would jump ship to.  Maybe a Distributed OpenSim, linkable to others on the grid?  You have a spare computer, maybe you to could be part of the grid?  Just a thought... who knows.  What is certain, is that Linden Labs needs to clearly communicate what they envision for the future of Second Life, other wise users will be less likely to buy products from merchants, and then merchants won&#039;t be able to pay their tier, and will leave, and if there is no content for users, an uncertain future will become certain... and perhaps final.

This isn&#039;t a nail in the coffin, just a cough that sounds concerning.  Unfortunately it&#039;s putting a bunch of customers on edge, and when they are on edge - plans for the future are put on hold.  I think it&#039;s time for LL to assure us that this sudden jerk in the course wasn&#039;t them falling asleep at the wheel.  Ideally if Second Life customers want to control the course that we are on, it&#039;s time to be an investor in Second Life.  Talk is cheap, but your L$ speak louder than words.  Let&#039;s hope they are listening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may put pressure on the OpenSim project to get up to speed.  If Second Life decides to make a ill fated course correction that the users aren&#8217;t in agreement with, then OpenSim is the most likely place they would jump ship to.  Maybe a Distributed OpenSim, linkable to others on the grid?  You have a spare computer, maybe you to could be part of the grid?  Just a thought&#8230; who knows.  What is certain, is that Linden Labs needs to clearly communicate what they envision for the future of Second Life, other wise users will be less likely to buy products from merchants, and then merchants won&#8217;t be able to pay their tier, and will leave, and if there is no content for users, an uncertain future will become certain&#8230; and perhaps final.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a nail in the coffin, just a cough that sounds concerning.  Unfortunately it&#8217;s putting a bunch of customers on edge, and when they are on edge &#8211; plans for the future are put on hold.  I think it&#8217;s time for LL to assure us that this sudden jerk in the course wasn&#8217;t them falling asleep at the wheel.  Ideally if Second Life customers want to control the course that we are on, it&#8217;s time to be an investor in Second Life.  Talk is cheap, but your L$ speak louder than words.  Let&#8217;s hope they are listening.</p>
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		<title>By: Nink</title>
		<link>http://www.metaverseink.com/blog/hypergrid/90-degree-course-adjustment/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nink]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The offer is still open so if Linden labs wants to switch to Opensim in order to reduce cost of developing and managing a separate code base they are welcome to dive in. The waters fine and the requirement for interoperability from SL to Opensim would not be such a MMOX err OGP umm VWRAP problem after all. 

See ya on the HyperGrid 

Nink]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The offer is still open so if Linden labs wants to switch to Opensim in order to reduce cost of developing and managing a separate code base they are welcome to dive in. The waters fine and the requirement for interoperability from SL to Opensim would not be such a MMOX err OGP umm VWRAP problem after all. </p>
<p>See ya on the HyperGrid </p>
<p>Nink</p>
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